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't want to overturn roe v wade, even john roberts in his confirmation hearing said it's settled law. for the pro-life movement, the conversation needs to shift to changing hearts and minds about people making personal choices and figuring out rather than an all-out ban, where do you set -- where is an appropriate place to set the line. >> i think that's where they're making inroads. if you look at what's happening in a lot of states, all sorts of provisions being put in place around abortion. few abortion clinics, mississippi, louisiana, north dakota, south dakota, only one abortion clinic. in some cases, doctors have to have an ultrasound done before women get abortions. in some cases they have to read about this idea that somehow if you get an abortion, you might be more suicidal. i think at the state level, the pro-rights movement, republicans are doing some -- >> quickly -- >> but they're winning right now in some of these conservative places on policy but that is driving, i believe, and we're seeing in our polling, women to go the other direction. they are awakening a conversat
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